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Dreamistic Reals

Sat Jun 6, 2009, 10:41 PM
  • Mood: Tense
  • Listening to: Silence
  • Reading: Wikipedia
  • Playing: Wind Waker
For once I made my own title ^^

Warning: Guys, I'm about to sound like a total dysfunctional, insane weirdo-freak. This is who I am. I may sound aggressive and even violent, I suppose, but please keep in mind I'm not, just very anxious and tense. Oh and it's also a veryyy long read, definitely suggest not reading it if you don't know how weird I can be sometimes.

This journal has a much more involved purpose but I'd like to start it off by saying Summer Break has come :D This is great but here comes (it always happens) the time when I stay up late, alone, and resort to occupying myself with extreeeeemly deep, abstract, and strange thoughts. I'm going to try to keep it at bay this summer but this is seriously how I came to be who I am o.O

Ulkae.

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This started from me wanting to become more adept at remembering my dreams. So I searched "How to Remember Dreams" on Google. Then I searched 'dream' on Wikipedia. And through countless link distractions I came to this [link] [link] [link]
If you have the time, read it, please. It's very interesting and will open your mind, but don't get too involved or you'll end up like me. If you don't here's the summary sentence. Keep in mind this is only one of my/the universal reality theories out there.

"Simulated reality is the proposition that reality could be simulated— perhaps by computer simulation—to a degree indistinguishable from "true" reality. It could contain conscious minds which may or may not know that they are living inside a simulation. In its strongest form, the "simulation hypothesis" claims it is possible and even probable that we are actually living in such a simulation."

This goes pretty comfortably with a phrase/theory I made-

"A dream becomes a reality as soon as it becomes real enough to believe."

This means therefore that reality is fake, does not exist, has never existed, and never will exist. Reality is simply a malfunction and illusion created by our human minds - or higher beings (and I don't mean a god). Our imagination and thirst for irrefutable knowledge/truth has began to turn against us, me being a great example.

If I were to believe this was 100% true (which I don't, I'm open to all theories), and even if I didn't, here's my evidence. Relativity. I don't mean Einstein's take on relativity, I mean natural human-born relativity. We all are victims to relativity and there's nothing we can do to help it, it's nature.

So what exactly is my take on relativity? It's the measuring or perception of anything through a single viewpoint. Basically, perspective-based judgments, often expressed using words like short, long, big, small, etc. Still don't get it?

Think of the lifetime of an average housefly. They live about a month (in the wild). We, as humans, would most likely describe a housefly's lifespan as short without thinking much of it, using that as a simple fact. But it's not a fact, simply a relative measurement, most likely in measurement to ourselves.

Now, pretend you're the fly. Your kind has been around for an unimaginable amount of time. Your average lifespan is about a month. It's not unfair, it's not short, it's all you've ever known, it's life. Now think of the average human lifespan, about 80 years or so. How would you describe it? Most would say Long without thinking much of it, using that as a simple fact. But it's not a fact, simply a relative measurement, most likely in measurement to our own.

See how this works? The human nor the fly's descriptions are facts, they're simply biased viewpoints. We, as humans, go along our whole lives making and hearing of countless of these relative observations and, as a result, it's grown hard for us to think otherwise. This is what I mean by relativity.

Now, think of the last dream you remember with other people in it. Perhaps one where you weren't even there, it was just an environment. How long do you think that dream lasted? 15 minutes? 30 minutes? Well the truth is, it makes no difference. Perhaps a mere 20 minutes to us is simply a tiny spec of time, but think of what OUR 20 minutes is to the people in your dreams'. What if a second of our time was a day in theirs? This isn't to say that the way we measure time is wrong, nor is theirs, but simply there is no wrong.

We wouldn't think 20 minutes is even near enough to live a life. We can barely eat a meal in 20 minutes. But what about for them? What if it was enough for them? What if that's all they've ever known? What if they had no idea that their relative view of a "lifetime" was simply a blink of an eye in ours? They don't think it's unfair, or short, or long, it simply is.

And before either of us know it, our 20 minutes and their lifetime finally comes to an end, the final bead of sand drops, and our dream ends. They don't die. They don't disappear. They merely don't. They become nothing. Nothing to grieve about, nothing to remember. They and their world simply become something that never existed. All that remains of them is a probably distorted and incorrect memory in our mind that's going to becoming nothing just as they did as we climb out of our bed. We don't think much of it. They were simply figments of our imagination that like to show up every night, after all this dream thing is just a nightly routine.

Now I know what you're thinking.
"Who gives a ****, and what do you mean? Honestly, who cares about those people, they never were real anyways, and they never will be again, so really, who cares?"

Well, that's the point.

Think of everything I just said, or even read it again, but this time, imagine WE'RE those people. Those foreign figments. Those uninformed fools. The billions of years our universe has existed is merely 20 minutes in the mind of some person, warm and cozy in their bed. And just like that, we're gone. We never existed, we were never real, we can never grieve about that which we thought was real but actually wasn't.

And there you have it. Maybe we're just as real as the people in our dreams. And maybe the person who's dreaming us is just as real as us. And the person dreaming of them is the same. But in the end we're all just nothing.

My point is: Maybe this is just a dream. Maybe one moment we'll be flourishing in our wonderful world and the next all will be black.

The funny part is, the one who will look at this and laugh saying "This is stupid, it's obviously fake and impossible. How could such a short amount of time be so ridiculously long to someone else?" is probably also the one bound by relativity. The one who can't look through the eyes of others for a single second and not immediately deem something as stupid and impossible just because it's easier to say so.

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Alright, so, yes o.O There's my massive wall of text, sorry if you actually read all of that, but I really need to get thoughts off my chest sometimes or they can really screw me up D: If you're going to be another one who thinks this is stupid and impossible, please do me a favor and don't comment. Save me the little prick in my heart that reminds me how close-minded and relativity-bound the majority of this fake population is.

Update: After re-reading this I'm totally paranoid. My depth perception is totally screwed and this screen looks really tiny. This always happens when I deal with abstract stuff :( But either way it was really nice to document this. Often I have thoughts I say I'll write down until they become a huge overwhelming pile of scattered stuff. Then I forget it. Have a good day :salute:

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:iconzorg-one-one:
Ha ha, wow, it always amazes me how philosophical you are Vance! :D

Interesting theories, I like. I love it when people are open-minded enough to think outside the box like that, no matter how far-fetched their ideas may sound to those narrow-minded people who just can't.

I agree with your ideas on relativity, also. About how life is neither short nor long. But then I think humans are fated to put such words to concepts like that, again, it's nature, we have to think of such things in that way to make sense of it, and almost comfort ourselves with such notions, if that makes sense?

Also, kudos for the longest journal I've ever seen on dA ;P

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:icontest-object:
Vance? VANCE? THAT'S YOUR NAME?!! Lance Vance Dance is awesome.

Also, death must be pe-retty boring.

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HAH! You're gravity's bitch, Billy...
:iconhatttrick:
Yar. Wtf, I just searched up Lance Vance Dance and.... I don't even know o.O
But yeah, people always think they're funny and original by calling me by whatever rhymes with Vance. They're neither funny nor original D:

Maybe. But once again, how can you think it's boring if you aren't even alive?

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Excited and screaming, their voices go wild
And rise with the birds mating up in the pines
Down to puddles that breathe, covered by leaves
With mud they'll make prints on their backs
:iconhatttrick:
Haha, this is just scratching the surface :XD: I just wish I could express all my ideas in a way that everyone could at least imagine. But it's really hard to do with this kind of stuff D:

Thanks ^^ Yes! I really love people and articles like that, especially when followed up by more open minded people (and they don't even have to agree, but just acknowledge what was proposed). As for the narrow-minded people, screw them. They're what's holding humanity back from real knowledge.

Yup, it's truly sad :( It's without a doubt nature, but it's part of being human to step out of nature. We have the power to look through other eyes where other animals don't and simply have to live with what they're given.
But instead people will still be like the animals and think that what we have (the universe) is all there ever was, and will be.

Thanks! :XD: Yeah, I decided to turn my latest journal thingy off because it doubled the size of my dA page XD

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Excited and screaming, their voices go wild
And rise with the birds mating up in the pines
Down to puddles that breathe, covered by leaves
With mud they'll make prints on their backs
:iconezbreez:
Whoa that was mind boggling. And insightful.

:iconimthinkingplz: But there is one thing, what about those people who do remember their dreams and never forget? Does that mean that those in the dream live on?

It reminds me of that theory that goes 'what if we're only a spec of sand on someone else's beach, and what if that beach is only a spec on someone else's and so on.'

:O And I know what you mean, about staying up late at night and letting your mind wander and just...think. Think about everything. I myself catch myself thinking about what my life will be like 5 years, 10 years, 20 years from now. And it feels surreal and I question myself about how much of it is real. It's such a weird feeling.

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What does it mean when nightmares dream of peace? When shadows wish for light? - Ink Exchange
:icontest-object:
That's because we are.

Hence, I silenced Vance :3
I r witty noaw.

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HAH! You're gravity's bitch, Billy...
:iconkittymango:
I'm the same way, spending summer mostly alone with my thoughts at ridiculous hours of the night o.o

I've actually thought about this before, and I've been stewing what you said around in my head all of today..

I was thinking about a time when I was just sitting in class, having an off day and feeling disconnected, when a thought burst into my mind: none of this is real. everything around me is the same matter, disguised as something familiar. In way, it's true. Some time ago I realized, if you look at it the right way. everything's invented. Every word there is is no more than a name for something, a product of imagination. Even facts can't truly be proven, numbers are a human invention... but maybe that's not even relevant. Anyway: we can't know anything for sure- and from this perspective, we don't. We have no idea where or when or even who we are, because, as you said, it's all relative, perspective. So, essentially, what I'm saying is this:
If tangible reality is discarded, reality becomes intangible.
It's both a logical result and a somewhat unsettling realization, and it presents the opportunity for anything and everything. We cannot be sure of anything. We each have our own reality-- our own perspective.

but, like something you said, I don't know if I believe it. It's an idea that's fascinating to think about-- somehow I'm as easily entertained by thinking as I am by actually doing something xD

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all of my dreams are memories that I can't place to a time or a face
:iconhatttrick:
Someone call the kitty-police!

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Excited and screaming, their voices go wild
And rise with the birds mating up in the pines
Down to puddles that breathe, covered by leaves
With mud they'll make prints on their backs
:iconhatttrick:
Thanks :)

Hrmmm, good point. I think it'd still have the same result. It'd kind of be like a dead person in a casket; their body is there but they're still dead. Well I don't know >.>

Ah, yeah, I've thought of that many times :) That goes back to relativity also, thinking that nothing could be bigger than us.

Late-night really is the time to think :P Sometimes it's unintentional/unwanted too. Sometimes (especially in the past week, since Summer Break started) my mood can completely change and I can get really grumpy and weird for no apparent reason. The problem with late-night thinking is sometimes something can get on my mind and upset me, and even if I forget why I'm still upset :s

Well, even if what I said is 100% true, I don't think it matters. Why should we really care if this is real or not? It's real enough for us and I think that's what counts.

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Excited and screaming, their voices go wild
And rise with the birds mating up in the pines
Down to puddles that breathe, covered by leaves
With mud they'll make prints on their backs

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